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August 11, 2010

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I can't wait to read much more from you. This is really a terrific website.

I can't wait to read much more from you. This is really a terrific website.

Lukas Weber

Also not so old school: http://www.investiere.ch/en in Switzerland

A new breed of private investors has invested several 100k through the platform in the first couple of months.

Wolfgang

Great post Fred! Probably one of the most comprehensive and up-to-date posts about European Angels in a long time. You might want to add the guys around b-to-v, Jan and Florian

Lars Carstens

Fantastic mapping, and yes, let's celebrate the small progress rather than bash. Some Northern European people to mention:
* LOTS (Love of Technology) in Finland is, like Lifeline, churning out some great projects.
* Recent entrepreneur-cum-VC Nikolaj Nyholm is rumored to have been doing a handful of really interesting seed deals in Northern Europe since joining Sunstone Capital half a year ago (none appear on their site, tho)
* The Southern-Swedish angels like Hampus Jacobsen (TAT) and Martin Gren (Axis) are super-active and having their money geared by the Swedish Entrepreneurs Fund (gov't money)
* Christophe Maire and other of the old Gate5/Nokia people in Berlin are doing some crazy (good) investments.

Itamarl

I can't comment on the future rise of SuperAngels but having raised funding for Kukunu (thanks Fred for the mention), I can witness the value these SuperAngels can add to the business:
- Network: they have all built successful businesses and bring with them a great network in many industries as well as within the VC community
- Advisors: these new funds are not just investment vehicles for SuperAngels, they have built structures that can support entrepreneurs. Jeremie (Kima) and MC (Jaina) are of course very present, but Marc is also spending a significant amount of his time in Jaina.
- Money: While Kima is indeed very focused on Seed investments, Jaina is a large fund that can support the business in the following rounds.

And then there is also Seedcamp, a different beast but I can only agree with Fred, Saul and Reshma are doing an amazing job there, and we're lucky to have them as an investor.

Fred Destin

@ Mathias: have not seen Mountain Partners in market much so not included,

Added Hanse and a few others.

@azeem: yes, I know. But apart from Bay Area / Silicon Valley, not many places have a ton a fast, good angels. Maybe Tel Aviv ? Would not take a monster change in behaviour for these folks to embrace this paradigm.

Azeem

Fred, Nice optimistic post but deal rates, funding sizes and number of participants are all much lower than in the US. Which means a much tighter market for entrepreneurs (with less supply of capital) than we would see in the US, which in turn leads to longer funding cycles.

Aydin, Jeff, Ron, Dave -- averaging 50+ investments and a dozen+ exits in the past year.
Let alone Conway.

Casual angels in the Bay Area (who don't consider themselves 'super angels') will regularly do 5 to 10 investments per year. Syndicates are broader, funding deeper and it comes earlier.

If you unpick some of the great groups in the UK, you'll see the deal rate is just much slower than in the US, as well; and pricing is *far* below what SuperAngel's come in at in the US.

Take a look at the typical terms of a US deal -- quick convertible note with a low discount (20%) and cheap coupon; with a maximum conversion price to protect the angel (typically around $3m).

Compare that to Europe--where I've heard stories of angels insisting on 25% of the company for GBP100k.

That certainly doesn't reflect the difference in costs or risks.

What surprises me is that we don't see more US superangels taking up opportunities here.

Sarik

You´re missing www.hanseventures.com startup accelerator in Hamburg with 10 portfolio companies so far.

Mathias

wwww.super-angel.ch

www.mountain-partners.ch

Mathias

You forgot Mountain Super Angel (www.super-angel.ch) - it's THE blueprint for all Germany based so called "Super Angel Funds" initiated by Dr. Cornelius Boersch's Mountain Partners Group (www.mountain-partners.ch)!

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mountain-Super-Angel-AG/339139922000

Fred Destin

@shafqat: most of the people i mention i consider highly reactive, but much needs to be done. my point is around velocity of chance and arrival of new players. we need more and better connectivity, but compared to even 2 years ago it's feeling very different.

@bcurdy: very few are good mentors, some are (william reeve, sean park stand out in my experience)

@mario: was not sure whether seedcapital.pt is funded or not ?

Florian Komm

Excellent post!

Pvzed

Great post! Having been in the European tech VC world for some time and now back in the US it has been very interesting to compare the two ecosystems. Other than there being more angels and capital in the US in general, I think a significant difference is with regards to communication. US angels are typically more open with their communication and are very good at self promotion. Perhaps a cultural difference. US angels also syndicate together more aggressively than I have seen in Europe. This can create a multiplier effect and ultimately push more money into start ups. In Sweden there have been groups such as Sting Capital and Norway is well known for its prolific angel investors. There is clearly a great opportunity to continue to "institutionalize" angel and early stage funding to a much greater degree. If I were to set up a new fund in Europe today this is where I would focus.

Mario Valente

>let me know who else we're missing here.
>

We're missing: Portugal, http://maverick.pt/ and http://seedcapital.pt/

-- MV

Shafqat

Good post, but I still don't see the anecdotal evidence of the superangel phenomenon taking off. For our latest round, we were sent out to angellist (which has some European investors) and I also used my network for intros to a lot of European angels. We had 30 investors reach out and schedule meetings, and had multiple term sheets within a week. During that time, the number of European angels who reached out to me: ZERO. Perhaps my company sucks, but it's still telling that the best investors I know in the US were interested, while not a single European investor even had an initial discussion. I guess time will tell who was right, but something seems strange.

Bcurdy

Nice post. I do agree that something is happening in Europe. You can feel it! It's a very exciting moment. I don't think though that money has ever been the biggest issue of European startups. Plus money alone doesn't make an angel. To me the real question is: are those people good mentors? That's what we need most. I can find money fairly easily but finding a great mentor is a whole other story. As, to be honest, I don't hear or read or see the people you mention much, I have a hard time deciding how excited I should get exactly about each of those angels/ early stage funds. Any take on this ?

Vcwatch


Having just completed my first angel investment in the UK (Edinburgh company), I'm happy to contribute to the trend !

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